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Communicating and Working Together as a Couple with Jacqui Letran and Joseph Wolfgram #63

Have you ever considered working together as a couple with your partner? On today’s episode of My Biz Bestie Maelisa and Amber welcome their first ever couple/biz besties/business partners! Jacqui Letran and Joseph Wolfgram are exceptional in many ways not only are they a couple who works together on their business from home but they do so in an RV while roaming the country. You’ll learn what their secrets are for working together as a couple when you listen to this episode of My Biz Bestie.

How did they get the idea to work together and from their RV?

Jacqui Letran has owned her own business for 9 years but her partner Joseph Wolfgram was used to life in the corporate world so they decided to ease into working together. He started by bringing an element of support to her and the business. They chose the nomadic RV life after taking an extended vacation in an RV and realizing that they really wanted to continue traveling. They immediately recognized that living in an RV and working from home is a huge commitment and so they both take it seriously. Listen to Jacqui and Joseph describe how they are living out their dream living their lives fully.

TWEET THIS: Discover how business and life partners Jacqui Letran and Joseph Wolfgram keep at it and dig deep to continue working together as a couple on this episode of My Biz Bestie.

How do they divide their tasks?

Jacqui and Joseph don’t feel that they have a strict division of labor. Instead, they know their strengths and each other’s strengths and are able to work those strengths into a more natural division of labor. They really respect each other and are both committed to making their business a success. They understand that they are working together to achieve their goals and that no one has to take all the credit. Discover how they keep at it and dig deep to continue working together as a couple on this episode of My Biz Bestie.

How do they keep their personal and business relationship separate?

Joseph and Jacqui work quite differently from each other. She loves her work and can work 24/7. Joseph also loves his work but sets boundaries surrounding work time. She gets up and is immediately ready to get to work. He is grounded and appreciates slowly easing into things. His morning routine begins with meditation so it took some practice for Jacqui to keep a quiet time from 7-9 am. They recognize to strike a balance it requires constant communication. They are able to work and live in such a small space because they love and like each other and they can both communicate their need for space and boundaries.

What is their advice for others considering working together as a couple?

Working together as a couple can be a challenge. Communication is the key to solving problems that arise. Joseph explains that there are only 3 causes of upset in the world.

  1. Unmet expectations

  2. Thwarted intentions

  3. Miscommunication that leads to one of the other 2

If you do get upset about something pause for a moment and think about why you are upset. After thinking you can respond rather than reacting. When you seek to understand it will save you an argument. Consider your expectations. If you don’t fully understand your expectations then how can your partner know what was expected from you? Think about whether your expectations were realistic and consider your partner’s expectations. Did you communicate your expectations in a way that your partner understood? Jacqui and Joseph have so many golden nuggets of advice to share with other couples so be sure to listen to this episode of My Biz Bestie to hear them all.

In this episode...

  • [3:12] How did they get the idea to work together and from their RV?

  • [6:55] How long have they been working together?

  • [13:45] How do they keep their personal and business relationship separate?

  • [25:06] Do they ever need a break from each other?

  • [28:08] He can’t multitask but she can

  • [33:15] What is their advice for couples considering working together?

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Friendship Through Frugal Living with Jen Smith and Jill Sirianni #55

Jen Smith and Jill Sirianni are frugal living experts and cohosts of the Frugal Friends Podcast. Being frugal is what brought them together in friendship and what inspired them to start a podcast together. They share frugal living advice as well as advice on how to expand your circle by stepping outside your comfort zone on this episode of My Biz Bestie.

How did frugal living bring Jen and Jill together?

Jill is a social worker and therapist that has always used frugality and lived in nontraditional ways since being a social worker isn’t the highest paid gig out there. Jen is a personal finance writer who documented her journey in paying off $78,000 in 2 years. She met Jill through a random chance meeting while on a road trip and living in her RV. The two couples hit it off by discussing frugal living. After bonding in a KOA hot tub they knew that their friendship could stand the test of time.

How did they start the Frugal Friends Podcast?

Jen began working a 40 hour a week job writing for the Penny Hoarder which meant that she was limited in what she could write on her blog and for other sites. Her husband is an audio engineer and posed the idea of her starting a podcast. She was totally against it. Writing is her thing, not podcasting. But the more she thought about it, the more it made sense. There were no other podcasts about frugal living. She knew that Jill would bring a different point of view on frugal living and bring balance to the show. And so the Frugal Friends Podcast was born.

How did their friendship transform through the podcast?

Jen attributes the podcast to keep them in touch. They produce the Frugal Friends Podcast weekly and have a chance to chat both before and after they record. They have grace with each other and since their schedules fluctuate, so does their recording schedule. They love that recording the show is like hanging out with a friend with everyone listening in. They never really communicated how they would divvy up the work. They divided their roles naturally since they know each other’s strengths. Jill is a great interviewer and connector, and Jen is a natural researcher.

What words of advice do they have on finding business friendships?

Jen’s advice is to make yourself uncomfortable. Put yourself out there even if you aren’t comfortable doing so. When you step outside of your comfort zone you open yourself up to new opportunities. To find people to connect with think about your interests. What are you good at and what do you like to talk about? Find someone you admire that is good at things you want to be good at. These are great ways to make connections.

In this episode...

  • [5:42] How did they meet?

  • [10:22] How did they start the Frugal Friends podcast?

  • [13:30] How did their friendship transform through the podcast?

  • [15:54] How do they communicate?

  • [19:56] Do they have other biz besties?

  • [28:22] What words of advice do they have?

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How These Biz Besties Began a Software Startup with Jennifer Barcelos and Sandy Connery #54

Sandy Connery and Jeni Barcelos met through a course that taught how to begin a software startup. Sandy had a successful brick and mortar business selling custom orthotics in Canada. She knew she was burned out and needed a change when she stopped caring about her work. She liked the idea of creating an online business so that she could stay at home and not have an inventory. Jennifer was a human rights lawyer who traveled to the scarier parts of the globe. They were brought together by a software startup course and have been meeting the male-dominated world of software head on ever since. Listen to their biz bestie story on this episode of My Biz Bestie.

What is their biz bestie relationship like?

These biz besties didn’t start out working together, that happened over time. But when Jeni needed a co-founder to receive a B2B accelerator she knew just the woman for the job. They both attribute their success in working together as due to their honest communication with each other. They both have mutual respect for one another and keep it real. Their business partnership allows them to take turns falling apart or taking breaks at the helm. They both have a real sense of accountability since they both care so much for each other and the company.

How do they communicate?

Jeni and Sandy don’t have the type of relationship that relies on schedules and boundaries. Their conversations slide back and forth between work and their personal lives. Every day is off the cuff and their side conversations happen in real life and online. They feel like their communication is structured much like being in an office where you stop by someone’s office to have a chat to take a break from the busyness of work life. They use Zoom and Slack daily as their main communication tools. The one conversation they do plan is a monthly meeting where they run the numbers of their business. How do you communicate with your biz bestie?

What is Namastream?

Namastream is Jeni and Sandy’s software company. It is an online learning platform that allows people in the wellness industry to teach online. It was developed for yoga teachers but they have expanded to include the wellness industry as a whole. Namastream allows wellness companies to create a membership site, teach courses, and do live streams. Namastream is an easy-to-use online tool designed for people who are not techy.

Do they have any advice for women who may want to run a software startup?

Jeni’s advice for women who want to get their feet wet with a software startup is: do it! She feels that the world is now being created and defined by software. Since there are not many women in the software industry there is a strong, supportive community of female entrepreneurs. There is a lot of generosity from other female members. They are willing to share advice to those just starting out. Right now is an amazing time to be a woman in tech. Sandy’s advice is to ensure that you have a trusted CTO by your side if you are not writing code for yourself. You should also make sure that there is a need in the market you want to serve. Aim high and expect to be paid your worth.

In this episode...

  • [3:12] How did they meet?

  • [8:45] Did they plan on staying in touch after the conference?

  • [12:14] What challenges did they face working together?

  • [16:39] How do they communicate?

  • [22:35] What is Namastream?

  • [29:04] Do they have any advice for women who may want to start a software company?

  • [34:02] Do they meet up IRL?

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Why Finding a Biz Bestie with the Right Business Mindset is More Important than Being in the Same Industry with Pam Andrews and Paula Kinney #51

Pam Andrews and Paula Kinney may not share the same industry but sharing the same business mindset drew them close and brought them to be biz besties. Pam Andrews is known as the Scholarship Shark and is a college admissions consultant. She gives moms more joy and less stress as they embark into the scary world of college admissions. Paula Kinney is an interior designer who offers virtual interior design services and runs the Love Your Next Kitchen Design Studio out of Cleveland, Ohio. These vivacious biz besties join Amber and Maelisa on this episode of My Biz Bestie to talk about their biz bestie relationship, business mindset, and how they don’t need to be in the same industry to be biz besties.

How did they meet?

Their biz bestie love story began when Paula and Pam met at Biz Chix Live a couple of years ago. Paula had actually heard Pam on some podcasts and was interested in her since her daughter was in high school. She was really excited to meet Pam and was a bit stalker-esque (but in a good way). They started talking that very first day on the cruise. Although Pam thought Paula was a wee-bit crazy there was an instant connection. Just a month later Paula came to Pam’s house and they have been biz besties ever since.

The power of having a biz bestie

Paula and Pam don’t mince words. They give each other direct feedback. They aren’t overly sensitive with one another, so there is no need to tiptoe around. Their helpful feedback helps them to get out of each other’s funks. They both know that if they are stuck in a rut for any reason that they should call each other to hear what they need to do to get back on their feet. Are you looking for an honest friend that can lift you up, or do you already share that with your biz bestie?

How is their relationship structured?

Pam and Paula talk whenever they feel like it. That can range from several times a week to several times a day. They text, call, and even Facetime, although neither is into Voxxer. They love the freedom of their relationship. It knows no boundaries. They are able to talk deeply about work, kids, husbands, money, vacations, you name it. They think that being in similar stages of their business journey is helpful to their friendship. It also helps that they are in similar stages of life. They are relatively the same age and their kids are close in age as well. Do you think that it’s important to have a structured bestie relationship or to keep the relationship loose?

Why is it important to find a biz bestie with a similar business mindset?

Pam and Paula are in completely different fields but find it quite easy to support each other in their business journeys. They find that they don’t have to explain the small stuff to each other. They feel that they speak the same language since they listen to many of the same podcasts, recommend books to each other, and they have even been in the same masterminds together. They feel that their biz bestie relationship thrives since they have the same business mindset and they are in similar places in their business journey. They are both goal-oriented and help steer each other along the right path and they are there to pull each other out of a rut when the need to. Listen to this episode of My Biz Bestie to hear why a similar business mindset is much more important in a biz bestie relationship than being in the same industry.

In this episode...

  • [3:12] How did they meet?

  • [9:32] The power of a biz bestie

  • [14:00] How is their relationship structured?

  • [17:41] Had they ever had a biz bestie before?

  • [21:34] They love that their kids see a great female relationship

  • [29:15] What are the benefits of having a biz bestie?

  • [34:55] How often do they get together in person?

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